tracking software

[thez]

No. It's specific to the internet. Schools don't have porn showing up when you enter random classrooms, but its easy to find that kind of thing accidentally on google, or just wandering around the internet. We use the acronym "NSFW" to indicate possible adult content, but someone who didn't understand -- like an 11 year old or a 9 year old -- could find that sort of thing and just ignore what he didn't understand. Or even worse, he could decide to google "NSFW" to figure out what it means.

As for problems with drugs, the answer comes to a lot of the same thing: teaching kids about the bad sides and the problems does a whole lot more to protect them from drugs than by trying to control every bit of their lives to make sure that they aren't doing them. I would have had the same reaction if he'd said that he wanted to take urine and blood samples from his kids every day, but that certainly could be considered an equivalent solution to the problem.

 

[Zajiku]

Regardless of what you do to your kids, protecting them from a pervert online, or locking them in their room so they don't go to some party and do drugs. At the age Public is talking about, a child wont like their parent no matter what they do to them. Sure, one could argue trust, but there is a fine line between anything right and wrong or trust and mistrust in most teenagers minds.

By the time that same child gets to early twenties, mid twenties... No matter what happened they will start to respect their parents and understand why they did the things they did... Unless that parent beat them and sawed off their limbs of course.

In any case, none of you have any right to tell somebody how to be a parent, you will all have to make decisions you don't want to, additionally you will all be completely clueless half the time and constantly ask yourself weather or not you made the right decision.

Key log the shit out of them Public, they hate you anyway right now.

~Zaj

 

[JimJohnson]

Regardless of what you do to your kids, protecting them from a pervert online, or locking them in their room so they don't go to some party and do drugs. At the age Public is talking about, a child wont like their parent no matter what they do to them. Sure, one could argue trust, but there is a fine line between anything right and wrong or trust and mistrust in most teenagers minds.

By the time that same child gets to early twenties, mid twenties... No matter what happened they will start to respect their parents and understand why they did the things they did... Unless that parent beat them and sawed off their limbs of course.

In any case, none of you have any right to tell somebody how to be a parent, you will all have to make decisions you don't want to, additionally you will all be completely clueless half the time and constantly ask yourself weather or not you made the right decision.

Key log the shit out of them Public, they hate you anyway right now.

~Zaj

If people cannot or don't want to hear other peoples advice regardless if its to the point of topic directly or not. Then don't ask for help on a forum like this. Its pretty simple.

No one here was telling them how to be parents. Just pointing out different angles. That is typically a good thing being no one thinks the same. Thus giving different points of views that, generally help make a more sound decision.

Well at least no one really until you told him to Keylog the shit out of them.

 

[slyna]

Regardless of what you do to your kids, protecting them from a pervert online, or locking them in their room so they don't go to some party and do drugs. At the age Public is talking about, a child wont like their parent no matter what they do to them. Sure, one could argue trust, but there is a fine line between anything right and wrong or trust and mistrust in most teenagers minds.

By the time that same child gets to early twenties, mid twenties... No matter what happened they will start to respect their parents and understand why they did the things they did... Unless that parent beat them and sawed off their limbs of course.

In any case, none of you have any right to tell somebody how to be a parent, you will all have to make decisions you don't want to, additionally you will all be completely clueless half the time and constantly ask yourself weather or not you made the right decision.

Key log the shit out of them Public, they hate you anyway right now.

~Zaj

First of all, I respected my parents all throughout my teen years, and they me. The idea that all kids will hate their parents eventually is nothing more than a way to justify bad parenting.

Secondly, I have no trouble at all telling someone how to raise their kids on an open forum. The day I get kids of my own I'm going to find all new creative ways to fuck up I'm sure, and if no one ever lets me know what I'm doing wrong, I may never learn.

 

[scuff11]

my wife does this to me now=/ .......

i agree with the rest, my daughter is almost 15 and i would never log her or my 12 year old boys activity... i may look at some cookies just to see what the boy has been looking at but never monitor there activity like you are saying, my kids tell me pretty much everything right now, we have a very open relationship..... they always tell me whats going on with them exc exc. like some one else suggested have those talks with them they help out alot

 

[Maskoi]

#1 If you don't have kids you have no opinion on this. You might think you do but you don't.
#2 How people raise their children is no one's fucking business unless they are actively abusing them mentally or physically.
#3 Cell phones, The internet and video games are not rights they are PRIVILEGES. Every kid has the right to move out at the age of 18 and screw up their lives how ever they want.

My brother asked me to set up something to help him watch what his kids are doing on the internet. I went into their rooms moved their computers into the family room and Voila. They can use the computers anytime they want as long as it is in a family area.

I applaud any parent that's wants to be involved with their kids online activities. I personally would never use key loggers but its up to each parent. I think having the dialogue with your kids is the best solution.

 

[DemonH2]

Here is my opinion on this, and i have a kid! Some allowed to!

Put a keylogger on there, good idea.

Tell the kid you did it, if he doesn't like it, don't use the computer.

As mentioned above, it is a privilege not a right.

In my opinion, as long as the kid knows what the deal is, you aren't being sneaky obviously, and it is a great measure in protecting your kid.

 

[Sadge]

Tell the kid you did it, if he doesn't like it, don't use the computer.

I'm a parent (which I guess is the requirement to comment on this thread), and I could care less how you anyone raises their children, but DemonH2 is correct here -- it's okay to install the keylogger, but if you don't tell the kids you're doing it, that's just wrong.

If the OP has as open of a relationship with his kids as he said he does, then telling them that he's going to use a keylogger shouldn't cause a problem.

 

[wunaye]

Man I couldn't imagine my parents doing this shit when I was a kid. No way could I do it to my own kids, which I have 2 of.

What's so hard about just putting the computer in the family room or something?

I've read the opening post over and over and logging the kids shit is just fucked up. I know some really strict parents and not even they go that far. Kids need some privacy too.

 

[DemonH2]

You are in the family room every time your kid uses a computer?

 

[BlueBug]

Let us all not forget that the pedophiles in this world have a relavitely new tool to use to coerce children into doing things that a normal adult parent would not allow.

It seems the OP was looking for something, not to prevent his children from doing something, but to prevent predators from contacting his children and attempting to victimize them.

Child predators are skilled manipulators who very often know what to say and do to convince even the brightest kids to do things they think are questionable. The legal age of adulthood is 18 for a reason. The things that we, as adults, scoff at as redicules is often enough for a child to believe.



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[Sadge]

Let us all not forget that the pedophiles in this world have a relavitely new tool to use to coerce children into doing things that a normal adult parent would not allow.

It seems the OP was looking for something, not to prevent his children from doing something, but to prevent predators from contacting his children and attempting to victimize them.

Child predators are skilled manipulators who very often know what to say and do to convince even the brightest kids to do things they think are questionable. The legal age of adulthood is 18 for a reason. The things that we, as adults, scoff at as redicules is often enough for a child to believe.



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Yes, but also anything you'd get from a keylogger (which would not help with the pedo's side of the convo) is all going to be post-chat. Any damage done during the chat is not going to be helped with a keylogger.

Like I said, it's up to the parent on if they want to use them or not, but not informing the child (or anyone else who uses that computer, for that matter) is spying and is completely wrong. It's not a grey area.

I suppose reading your child's journal is acceptable behavior? Going through their stuff? While you can certainly do that, in the end it does more harm than good.

I stand by my thought on this -- if you don't tell the child you're monitoring their conversations and keystrokes, then you're spying (even if they're your own child! They're still individuals with their own right to privacy)

 

[rob]

My child isn't old enough to use a computer, but I will likely employ all sorts of devious devices to monitor what she does online. That being said, I don't think I would ever confront her on anything she says there unless it was near life threatening.

The purpose of my monitoring isn't to prevent her from doing anything bad...but it would be used to help me be a better parent.

As for software? I'm not sure. My goal would be one that can be used in conjunction with spyware/malware/antivirus software. Last thing I would want happen is having the kid inadvertantly downloading viruses. Good luck with your search.

 

[1stcall]

Really?

Parenting,

part of it is protecting childern from things that they are unable to make a educated decision on.

The choice of losing trust, and Losing my Child I'll lose the trust.

Your not allowed to smoke till X years, Your not allowed to Drink Till X years, your not allowed to Drive till X years.

I felt the same way restriction wise as many others here till I had kids, and I now understand that as they got older I appreciated and understood some of the restrictions that were put on me.

Privacy?

Choose the chance of Losing your kid, or getting into their business. Most parents do not really want too but they do it because its part of doing whats best long term.

When we drive we use a seatbelt <restrictive> incase (low chances) of an accident. We also require our childern to be seatbelted in.

 

[Smarty]

As far as the legal age being 18, well thats true, its 18 or even 19 if still in highschool. However, there is a thing called Emancipation, and its very, VERY easy to do. When i was 15 and my son was just about to be born, i was in the process of doing it simply because my parents were keeping me away from my girlfriend and my future son. All i had to prove was that without my parents i could eat, attend school, and not live in a cardboard box. Right before court time my parents finally gave in and allowed me to see my girlfriend, gave me "my" car back (my car= the one they gave me, i paid insurance and gas). But getting to the point, go ahead and push your kids, with the information available today, and a kid that is upset enough like i was, they are going to find a way out. If you get to that point its already to late unless they wise up like i did. Instead take the time now while they are young and dont wait to tell them about the dangers of other people (strangers), hell my son will smack you in the balls (if your a dude) and run away screaming if he gets more then 10 feet from me when we are shopping haha.

 

[DemonH2]

/me steers topic off course.

Keeping my son away from bad business is one thing. Keeping my son away from his baby mama is a different thing.

 

[Smarty]

Pushing your kid, for any reason, trust, baby momma, whatever it is, it can end in the same result, revolting kid.

 

[DemonH2]

Not pushing your kid ends up in the same result. Failing grades, burger king job(if any), and overall parasite of society(welfare leeching sob).

 

[JimJohnson]

Not pushing your kid ends up in the same result. Failing grades, burger king job(if any), and overall parasite of society(welfare leeching sob).

Encouraging works better then pushing.

 

[Smarty]

With JJ on this one, i've seen my sister get the praise of the world (favorite child) and her performance in just about everything is better then myself or my brothers (other then school, she is kinda dumb, but she does try hard). But for myself and my brothers , naturally smarter and excelled in school with no effort, we used it to punish our parents when they chastised us for mistakes.